Securing America Topic
Our next segment is called Securing America we want to start with a twenty first century war happening every day in this country our institutions are under cyber attack that our secrets are being stolen.
So my question is who is behind it and how do we fight it. Secretary Clinton this answer goes to you. Well I think cyber security cyber warfare will be one of the biggest challenges facing the next president because clearly we’re facing at this point.
Two different kinds of adversaries. There are the independent hacking groups that do it mostly for commercial reasons to try to steal information that they then can use to make money but increasingly we are seeing cyber attacks coming from states organs of states the most recent and troubling of these has been Russia.
There’s no doubt now that Russia has used cyber attacks against all kinds of organizations in our country and I am deeply concerned about this. I know Donald very.
Praise praiseworthy of Vladimir Putin but Putin is playing a really tough long game here. And one of the things he’s done is to let loose cyber attackers to hack into government. Files to hack into personal files hack into the Democratic National Committee and we recently.
Have learned that you know that this is one of their preferred methods of trying to wreak havoc and collect information we need to make it very clear whether it’s Russia China Iran or anybody else.
The United States has much greater capacity and we are not going to sit idly by and permit state actors to go after our information our private sector information or our public sector information and we’re going to have to make it clear that. We don’t want to use the kinds of tools that we have we don’t want to engage in a different kind of warfare but we will defend the citizens of this country and the Russians need to understand that.
I think they’ve been treating it as almost a probing how far would we go. How much would we do and that’s why I was so I was so shocked when Donald publicly invited Putin to hack into Americans that is that is just unacceptable it’s one of the reasons why fifty national security officials who served in Republican information and administration and it’s as a time said that Donald is unfit to be the commander in chief.
It’s comments like that that really worry people who understand the threats that we face a sort of two minutes in the same question you know. I don’t want to say that I was just indorsed and more are coming next week it’ll be over two hundred admirals many of them here admirals and generals indorsed me to lead this country. That just happened and many more coming. And I’m very proud of that in addition I was just into us by ice. They’ve never endorsed anybody before when immigration.
I was just endorsed by and I was just recently into a sixteen thousand five hundred border patrol agents. So when Secretary Clinton talks about this. I mean I’ll take the admirals and I’ll take the generals any day over the political hacks that I see that have led our country so brilliantly over the last ten years with the knowledge.
OK because look at the mess that we’re in and look at the mess that we’re in as far as the cyber I agree two parts of what Secretary Clinton said we should be better than anybody else and perhaps we’re not. I don’t think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the D.N.C. she’s saying Russia Russia Russia but I don’t. Maybe it was I mean it could be Russia but it could also be China could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on the bed that weighs four hundred pounds.
OK you don’t know who broken. To D.N.C. But what did we learn with D.N.C. we learned that Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of by your people by Debbie Wasserman Schultz look what happened to her but Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of that’s what is now whether that was Russia. Whether that was China. Whether it was another country we don’t know because the truth is under President Obama. We’ve lost control of things that we used to have control of.
We came in with the Internet we came up with the Internet and I think Secretary Clinton myself would agree very much. When you look at what ISIS is doing with the Internet. They’re beating us at our own game. Isis.
So we have to get very very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a it is a huge problem I have a son. He’s ten years old he has computers.
He’s so good with these computers it’s unbelievable the security aspect of cyber is very very tough and maybe it’s it’s hardly doable but I will say we are not doing the job we should be doing but that’s true throughout our whole governmental society we have so many things that we have to do better luster.
And certainly cyber is one of them. Secretary Clinton. Well I think there are a number of issues that we should be addressing. I have put forth a plan to defeat ISIS. It does involve going after them on line I think we need to do much more with our tech companies to
prevent ISIS and their operatives from being able to use the Internet to radicalize even direct people in our country and Europe and elsewhere but we also have to intensify our air strikes against ISIS.
And eventually support our Arab and Kurdish. Partners to be able to actually take out ISIS in Iraq and their. I’m a being a caliphate. We’re making progress. Our military is assisting in Iraq and we’re hoping that within the year we’ll be able to push ISIS out of Iraq and then you know really squeeze them in Syria but we have to be cognizant of the fact that they’ve had foreign fighters coming to volunteer for them foreign money foreign weapons. So we have to make this the top priority and I would also do everything possible to take out their leadership.
I was involved in a number of efforts to take out Al Qaida leadership when I was secretary of state including of course taking out bin Laden and I think we need to go after Baghdadi as well make that one of our organizing principles because we’ve got to defeat ISIS and we’ve got to do everything we can to disrupt their propaganda efforts on line.
You mention our uses and we think of ISIS certainly as over there but there are
American citizens who have been inspired to commit acts of terror on American soil. The latest incident of course the bombings we just saw in New York and New Jersey the knife attack at a mall in Minnesota in the last year. Deadly attacks in San Bernardino and Orlando. I’ll ask this to both of you tell us specifically how you would prevent homegrown attacks by American citizens Mr first I have to say one thing very important. Secretary Clinton is talking about taking out ISIS We will take out ISIS.
Well President Obama and Secretary Clinton created a vacuum.
The way they got out of Iraq because they got out right. They shouldn’t get in. But once they got in the way they got out was a disaster. And ISIS was formed. So she talks about taking them out. She’s been doing a long time.
She’s been trying to take them out for a long time but they wouldn’t have even been formed if they left some troops behind like ten thousand or maybe something more than that and then you wouldn’t have had that. Or as I did. I’m saying for a long time and I think you’ll agree because I said it to you once had we taken the oil and we should have taken the oil ISIS would not have been able to form either because the oil was their primary source of income and now they have the oil all over the place including the oil a lot of the oil in Libya which was another one of her disasters.
SECRETARY CLINTON Well I hope the fact checkers are turned up thing turning up the volume and really working hard. Donald supported the invasion of Iraq wrong that is absolutely wrong proved over and over again actually advocated for the actions we took in Libya and urged that Gadhafi be taken out after actually doing some business with him one time but the larger point he says this constantly. Is George W. Bush made the agreement about when American troops would leave Iraq not Barack Obama. And the only way that American troops could have stayed in Iraq is to get an agreement from the then Iraqi government that would have protected our troops and the Iraqi government would not give that. But let’s talk about the question you asked Lester the question you asked is
What do we do here in the United States. That’s the most important part of this. How do we prevent attacks how do we protect our people and I think we’ve got to have an intelligence search where we are looking for every scrap of information.
I was so proud of law enforcement in New York in Minnesota in New Jersey. You know they responded so quickly so professionally to the attacks that occurred by me and they brought him down and we may find out more information because he is still alive which may prove to be an intelligence benefit. So we’ve got to do everything we can to vacuum up intelligence from Europe from the. Middle East that means we’ve got to work more closely with
our allies and that’s something that Donald has been very dismissive of we’re working with NATO the longest military alliance in the history of the world to really turn our attention to terrorism.
We’re working with our friends in the Middle East. Many of which as you know our Muslim majority nations. Donald has consistently insulted Muslims abroad Muslims at home when we need to be cooperating with Muslim nations and with the American Muslim community they’re on the front lines they can provide information to us that we might not get anywhere else. They need to have close working cooperation with law enforcement in these communities not be alienated and pushed away as some of Donald’s rhetoric. Unfortunately has led to Mr Minister will I have to respond to his response. The secretary said very strongly about working with we’ve been working with them for many years and we have the greatest mess anyone’s ever seen you look at the Middle East.
It’s a total mess under your direction to a large extent but you look at the Middle East. You started the Iran deal that’s a another beauty where you have a country that was ready to fall.
I mean they were doing so badly they were choking on the sanctions and now they’re going to be actually probably a major power at some point. Pretty soon the way they’re going but when you look at NATO.
I was asked on a major show what do you think of danger they have to understand I’m a business person. I did really well but I have common sense and I said Well I’ll tell you I haven’t given lots of thought to NATO. But two things Number one the twenty eight countries of NATO. Many of them aren’t paying their fair share. Number two when that bothers me because we should be defending them that they should at least be paying us what they’re supposed to be paying by treaty and contract and numbertwo I said very strongly NATO could be obsolete because I was very strong.
All of this and it was actually covered very accurately in the New York Times which is unusual for the New York Times to be honest but I said they do not focus on Terra and I was very strong and I said it numerous times and about four months ago I read on the front page of The Wall Street Journal that they tow is opening up a major terror division and I think that’s great and I think we should get because we pay approximately seventy three percent of the cost of NATO. It’s a lot of money.
To protect other people but I’m all for NATO but I said they have to focus on terror. Also I think to do that and that was believe me I’m not going to get credit for it but that was largely because of what I was saying and my criticism of NATO.
I think we have to get NATO. To go into the Middle East with us. In addition
to surrounding nations and we have to knock the hell out of ISIS and we have to do it fast when ISIS formed in this vacuum created by Barack Obama and Secretary Clinton. And believe me you were the ones that took out the troops not only that you named the day they couldn’t believe that they sat back probably and said like you’re leaving out he said no wait a minute.
We’ve covered when theywere armed when they formed this is something that never should have happened. It should have never happened. Now you’re talking about taking out ISIS. But you were there and you were secretary of state when it was a little it different now it’s in over thirty countries and you’re going to stop them.
I don’t think so Mr trouble with a lot of these are judgment questions you have supported the war in Iraq before the invasion. What make sure I do not support the war in Iraq in two
thousand. Chad is a mainstream media nonsense put out by her because she frankly I think the best person in her campaign is mainstream media. My question just as you would you like to hear why it is you.
I was again or just more Wait a minute I was against the war in Iraq just so you put it out the record and I thought there were no why do you not show why was your director and you notice that I’m right. When I did an interview with Howard Stern very likely first time anyone’s asked me that I said very lightly. I don’t know maybe who knows. Essentially I then did an interview with Neil Cavuto which talked about the economy is more important. I then spoke to Sean Hannity which everybody refuses to call Sean Hannity I had numerous conversations with Sean Hannity at Fox and Sean Hannity said and he called me the other day and I spoke to him about it he said you were totally against war because he was for the war why and where he has been better than that was before the war started. Sean Hannity said very strongly to me and other people.
He’s willing to say it but nobody wants to call him I was against the war he said you used to fight with me because Sean was in favor of the war. And I understand that site also not very much because we should have never been there but nobody calls you on how many and then they did an article in a major magazine shortly after the war started. I think in zero four. But they did an article which had me totally against the war in Iraq and one of you or compatriots said you know whether it was before or right after Trump was definite because if you read this article.
There’s no doubt. But if somebody had asked the press. If somebody would call up Sean Hannity this was before the war started. He and I used to have arguments about the war I said it’s a terrible and a stupid thing. It’s going to destabilize the Middle East and that’s exactly what it’s done for it’s was a what you had said in two thousand and two in my question was What are you doing here. What I said why is your judgment any different
than Mrs Caldwell I have much better judgment than she does. There’s no question about that.
I also have a much better temperament than she has you know I have a much better. She spent. Let me tell you she spent hundreds of millions of dollars on an advertising you know they get Madison Avenue into a room they put NATO temperament let’s go after I think my strongest asset.
Maybe by far is my temperament. I have a winning temperament. I know how to win. She does not how sort of her equate.
The ev-L. she I you know the other day behind the blue screen. I don’t know who you were
talking to Secretary Clinton. But you were totally out of control. I said there’s a person with a
temperament that’s got a problem. Secretary Clinton. OK but the but let’s let let’s talk about two important issues that were briefly mentioned by Donald first dado you know NATO as a military alliance has something called Article five and basically it says this an attack on one is an attack on all. And you know the only time it’s ever been invoked. After nine eleven when the twenty eight nations of NATO said that they would go to Afghanistan with us to fight terrorism something that they still are doing by our side with respect to Iran when I became secretary of state Iran was weeks away from having enough nuclear material to form a bomb they had mastered the nuclear fuel cycle under the Bush administration they had built covert facilities they had stocked them with centrifuges that were whirling away and we had sanctioned them. I voted for every sanction against Iran.
When I was in the Senate but it wasn’t enough so I spent a year and a half putting together a coalition that included Russia and China. To impose that toughest sanctions on Iran and we did drive them to the negotiating table and my successor John Kerry and President Obama got a deal that put a lid on Iran’s nuclear program without firing a single shot. That’s diplomacy.
That’s coalition building that’s working with other nations. The other day I saw Donald saying that there were some Iranian sailors on a ship in the waters off of Iran and they were taunting American sailors who were on a nearby ship. He said you know if they taunted our sailors I’d blow them out of the water and start another war that’s that would not sit at the judgment that is not the right temperament to be commander in chief to be taunted and the worst part they want to say has been about nuclear weapons.
He has said repeatedly that he didn’t care a father Nations got nuclear weapons Japan South Korea even Saudi Arabia. It has been the policy of the United States Democrats and Republicans to do everything we could to reduce the proliferation of nuclear weapons. He even said well you know if there were a nuclear war in East Asia.
Well that’s fine. You know have a good time folks and in fact his cavalier attitude about nuclear weapons is so deeply troubling that is the number one threat we face in the
world and it becomes particularly threatening if terrorists ever get their hands on any nuclear
material. So a man who can be provoked by a tweet should not have his fingers anywhere near the nuclear codes as far as I think anyone with any sense about this should be concerned aren’t sounding a little bit old. I must say listen it’s a good one. I would like well describes the product is not an accurate one of all it’s not an accurate one. So I just want to give a lot of things and just to respond.
I agree with her and one thing the single greatest problem.
The world has is nuclear armament nuclear weapons not. Global warming like you think and your. President thinks. Nuclear is the single greatest than just to go down the list. We defend Japan we defend Germany we defend South Korea we defend Saudi Arabia we defend countries they do not pay us what they should be paying us because we are providing tremendous service and we’re losing a fortune.
That’s why we’re losing we’re losing we lose on everything I say Who makes these we lose on everything. Well I say that it’s very possible that if they don’t pay a fair share. Because this isn’t forty years ago where we could do what we’re doing we can’t defend Japan a behemoth selling US cars by the million we need to move on it but it’s very important.
All I said was they may have to defend themselves or they have
to help us out. We’re a country that owes twenty trillion dollars they have to help us out our largest a
nuclear is concerned. I agree it is the single greatest threat that this country has.