Presidential Debate Part 3: The ‘Birther’ Issue
Presidential Debate Part 3: Segment we move into our next segment talking about America’s direction and let’s start by talking about race. The share of Americans who say race relations are bad in this country is the highest it’s been in decades. Much of it amplified by shootings of African-Americans by police as we’ve seen recently in Charlotte and tell us that race has been a big issue in this campaign and one of you is going to have to bridge a very wide and bitter gap so how do you heal the divide. Secretary Clinton you get two minutes on this. Well you’re right. Race remains a significant challenge in our country.
Unfortunately race still determines too much often determines where people live determines what kind of education in their public schools they can get and yes it determines how they’re treated in the criminal justice system. We’ve just seen those two tragic examples in both Tulsa and Charlotte.
And we’ve got to do several things at the same time we have to restore trust. Between communities and the police.
We have to work to make sure that our police are using the best training the best
techniques that they are well prepared to use force. Only when necessary. Everyone should be respected by the law and everyone should respect the law. Right now that’s not the case in a lot of our neighborhoods. So I have ever since the first day of my campaign called for criminal justice reform. I’ve laid out a platform that I think would begin to remedy some of the problems we have in the criminal justice system. But we also have to recognize in addition to the challenges that we face with policing there are so many good brave police officers who equally want reform. So we have to bring community.
Together in order to begin working on that as a mutual goal and we’ve got to get guns out of the hands of people who should not have them the gun epidemic is the leading cause of death of young African American men more than the next nine causes put together so we have to do two things as I said we have to restore trust we have to work with the police.
We have to make sure they respect the communities and their communities respect them and we have to tackle the plague of gun violence which is a big contributor to a lot of the problems that we’re seeing today Mr Trump you have two minutes how do you heal the divide. First of all circuits Clinton doesn’t want to use. A couple of words and that’s Law and Order. And we need law and order. If we don’t have it. We’re not going to have a country and when I look at what’s going on in Charlotte the city. I love a city where I have investments. When I look at what’s going on throughout various parts of our country whether it’s I mean I can just keep naming them all day long we need law and order in our country and I just
got today the as you know the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police which is just came in and we have endorsements from I think almost every police group very I mean a large percentage of them in the United States we have a situation where we have our inner cities African-Americans Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. He walked down the street you get shot.
In Chicago. They’ve had thousands of shootings thousands since January first thousands of shootings and I’m saying where is this is this a war torn country what are we doing and we have to stop the violence. We have to bring back law and order in a place like Chicago where thousands of people have been killed thousands. Over the last number of years. In fact almost four thousand have been killed since Barack Obama became president over for almost four thousand people in Chicago have been killed. We have to bring back law and order. Now whether or not in a place like Chicago you do stop and frisk which worked very well Mayor Giuliani is here and work very well in New York.
It brought the crime rate way down but you take the gun away from criminals that shouldn’t be having it. We have gangs roaming the street and in many cases they’re illegally here illegal immigrants and they have guns and they shoot people and we have to be very strong and we have to be very vigilant. We have to be we have to know what we’re doing right now our police in many cases are afraid to do anything we have to protect our inner cities because African-American communities are being decimated by crime here too. This isn’t your two minutes expire but I do want to follow up stop and frisk was rolled unconstitutional in New York because it it largely singled out black and Hispanic young men. It went before. A judge who was a very against police judge.
It was taken away from her and our mare our new mare refused to go forward with the case that would have won her appeal if you look at it throughout the country there are many places where argument is that it is and it’s a form of racial profiling. No the argument is that we have to take the guns away from these people that have them and that are bad people that shouldn’t have them. These are felons these are people 1Presidential Debate Part 3- Race relations in the U.S. that are bad people that shouldn’t be. When you have three thousand shootings go from January first when you have four thousand people killed in Chicago by guns from the beginning of the presidency of Barack Obama his hometown. You have to have to stop and frisk you need more police.
You need a better community. You know relation. You don’t have good community relations in Chicago. It’s terrible. You have property there you’d stir up a what’s going on in Chicago but when you look and Chicago is not the only you go to Ferguson you go to so many different places. You need better relationships I agree with Secretary Clinton on this you need better relationships between the communities and the police because in some cases it’s not good but you look at Dallas where the relationships were really studied the relationships were really a beautiful thing and then five police officers were killed.
One night very violently. So this some bad things going on some really bad things are equipment we need we need law and order and we need law and order in the inner cities
because the people that are most affected by what’s happening are African-American and Hispanic people and it’s very unfair to them what our politicians are allowing to happen so quickly. Well I’ve heard. I’ve heard Donald say this at his rallies and. It’s really unfortunate that he paid such a dire negative picture of black communities in our country. You know the vibrancy of the black church black businesses that employ so many people. The opportunities that so many families are working to provide for their kids. There’s a lot that we should be proud of and we should be supporting and lifting up. But we do always have to make sure we keep people safe. There are the right ways of doing it and then there are ways that are ineffective stop and frisk was found to be unconstitutional and in part because it was ineffective. It did not do what it needed to do now.
I believe in community policing and in fact violent crime is one half of what it was in one nine hundred ninety one property crime. It is down forty percent. We just don’t want to see it creep back up. We’ve had twenty five years of very good cooperation but there were some problems some unintended consequences too many young African-American and Latino men ended up in jail for nonviolent offenses and it’s just a fact that if you’re a young African-American man and you do the same thing as a young white man you are more likely to be arrested charged convicted and incarcerated. So we’ve got to address the systemic racism in our criminal justice system. We cannot just say law and order. We have to say we have to come forward with a plan that is going to divert people from the criminal justice system deal
with mandatory minimum sentences which have put too many people away for too long for doing too little.
We need to have more second chance programs. I’m glad that we’re ending private prisons and the federal system I want to see them ended in the state system. You should have a profit motivation to fill prison cells with young Americans. So there are some positive ways we can work on this and I believe strongly that commonsense gun safety measures would assist us right now and this is something Donald has supported along with the gun lobby right now we’ve got too many military style weapons on the streets and a lot of places our police are outgunned. We need comprehensive background checks and we need to keep guns out of the hands of those who will do harm and we finally need to pass a prohibition on anyone who is on the terrorist watch list from being able to buy a gun in our country.
If you’re too dangerous to fly you are too dangerous to buy a gun. So there are things we can do. And we ought to do it in a bipartisan sort of a sort of they’re going to last where you said we’ve got to do everything possible to improve policing to go right it implicit bias. Do you
believe that police are implicitly biased against black people less or I think implicit bias is a problem for everyone not just police. I think unfortunately too many of us in our great country jump to conclusions about each other and therefore I think we need all of us to be asking hard questions about. You know why am I feeling this way but when it comes to policing sense it can have literally fatal consequences.
I have said in my first budget we would put money into that budget to help us deal with implicit bias by retraining a lot of our police officers I’ve met with a group of very
distinguished experienced police chiefs a few weeks ago they admit it’s an issue. They’ve got a lot of concerns mental health is one of the biggest concerns because now police are having to handle a lot of really difficult mental health problems on the street they want support they want more training they want more assistance and I think the federal government could be in a position where we would offer and provide that. Like to respond first of all I agree and a lot of people even within my own 2 Presidential Debate Part 3- Race relations in the U.S.
party want to give certain rights to people on watch lists and no fly lists.
I agree with you when a person is on a watch list or a no fly list and I have the endorsement of the N.R.A. which I’m very proud of these a very very good people in there protecting the Second Amendment but I think we have to look very strongly at no fly lists and watch lists and when people are on there even if they shouldn’t be on there will help them will help them legally will help them get off but I tend to agree with that quite strongly. I do want to bring up the fact that you were the one that brought up the word super predator about young black youth and that’s a term. That I think was the Torah it’s been horribly met as you know I think you’ve apologized for it but I think it was a terrible thing to say and when it comes to stop and frisk you know you’re talking about taking guns away when I’m talking about taking guns away from gangs and people that use them and I don’t think I really don’t think you disagree with me on this if you want to know the truth I think maybe there’s a political reason
why you can’t say it but I really don’t believe in New York City stop and frisk we had two thousand two hundred murders and stop and frisk brought it down to five hundred murders five hundred murders a lot of murders.
Hard to believe five hundred is like supposed to be good. But we went from two thousand two hundred to five hundred and it was continued on by. And it was terminated by our current mayor but stop and frisk had a tremendous impact on the safety of New York City
tremendous beyond belief. So when you say it has no impact it really did it had a very very big impact. Well it’s also fair to say if we’re going to talk about mayors that under the current mayor crime has continued to drop including murders.
So they’re you know you’re up. All right. You do your New York John an excellent job and I give credit. I give credit across the board going back to mayors to police chiefs because it has worked and other communities need to come together to do what will work as well look one murder is too many but it is important that we learn about what has been affective and not go to things that sound good. That really did not have the kind of impact that we
would want. Who disagrees with keeping neighborhoods safe. But let’s also add. No one should disagree about respecting the rights of young men who live in those neighborhoods and so we need to do a better job of working again with the community. These faith communities business communities as well as the police to try to deal with this problem is cover.
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